Friday, March 9, 2018

Pretty much a contradiction

You know how Mormons are trying to become like God?

They say "I'm trying to be like Jesus" ---- and they believe, as I think the Book of Mormon says, that Jesus is "one" with his father. And we are trying to be like them.


Well, the Mormons like to say "God cannot look upon sin with the least degree of allowance".

God hates sin.  He does not allow it in any way shape or form.


But what does the Mormon church tell us that we HAVE to do, that we are REQUIRED to do?

"Forgive all men. Be long-suffering and slow to anger".

?????


If we're trying to be like God ---- then why are the instructions of the church that you are REQUIRED to follow the exact opposite of how GOD would behave????


If I was like Jesus, I would forgive and not forgive the same people Jesus forgives and doesn't forgive.


But despite telling us to be like Jesus, they then turn around and say we are required to forgive EVERYONE.


That' NOT how you become like Jesus! You don't tell us to become like God and then tell us we are required to do things that GOD WOULD NOT DO.


God DOES NOT ALLOW SIN.


SO WHY ARE WE TOLD TO FORGIVE ALL MEN AND BE SLOW TO ANGER AND LONGSUFFERING???

How can you never allow any sin, yet always be so forgiving??? It's not logical. It's just plain stupid.



Anyway ------


These thoughts are, again, developed from my experience of being told to be the Lord's Servant --- and a Servant does what he's told ----- and I was ACTUALLY TOLD to be crazy.


And although I was actually TOLD to be crazy ---- they then started complaining about me being crazy when I did become crazy.


Something is completely wrong.


You got what you wanted --- and now you're complaining about it????


But, in the end, it does kind of make sense that I would be crazy ---- because the Church I was brainwashed to believe in as the absolute truth, well, it was actually just a complete lie.


If we believe in something completely dishonest -- then yes, that is "crazy".


But, the real unfortunate thing is that me, my schizophrenic brother and father are the only members of the immediate family who realize the church isn't really true.


My Sisters, who wanted me to be crazy, still haven't figured out the actual truth.


It doesn't even make sense that they'd want their miracle-working older brother to be insane, and then continue being Mormons and going to the temple as if the church actually is the truth ---- it doesn't make any sense, but that's what they've done.


It only makes sense to tell the miracle worker he's crazy if the belief system seems wrong somehow. Yet --- they were telling me I'm crazy and then they don't even realize for years anything about any of the problems, and they still go to the temple.


It's not logical.


It's weird how I was told that I was schizophrenic ---- but after years of hearing me talking about my decision-making process, the nurse finally determined that there was "a method to my madness".

I was actually trying to figure things out, logically. And I was the schizophrenic one.


While my sisters are considered mentally healthy, but their decisions and actions are actually seeming to be quite senseless and unexplainable.


Yeah, it's just weird how that is.


I could go through and logically reason about many decisions I made --- which only just proved the Church to be dishonest in the end.


And though I can clearly see the church is not really true ---- and though my Sisters wanted their miracle-working older brother to be insane --- somehow they don't realize how wrong their beliefs really are. They don't seem to care about actual truth or logic.


Anyway.

The biggest point of this post is the Doctrinal issue between trying to be like God, but then being told to be different from God. It's so dumb.



UPDATE:::::

https://www.lds.org/topics/forgiveness?lang=eng

The above URL is what I discovered about how the LDS Mormon church NOW defines "forgiveness".

In all my time as a Mormon, this is the first time I've seen this definition used.

When I was young, they did not use the same definition.

The definition basically says "To forgive is divine. When you forgive you excuse or pardon a person from being blamed for a sin".

SO:::: You can never blame anyone for anything in Mormonism.

That either means EVERYONE goes to heaven -----

or it means that though you are not to blame for what happened, you will still be punished for it.

In a world where we cannot determine blame, that means there is no reason for anything.

If you blame someone, you will burn in hell worse than they will.

You have no blame for anything that ever happened in your life, but God will still judge you for --- for what exactly????

Anyway ---- I know the church punishes people who they do not blame.

I don't blame you, but you are still going to hell for this.

Or else, everyone goes to heaven and only people who lay blame go to hell.

It doesn't make any sense. I still like a more "regular Christianity" interpretation of what Jesus said, that excludes D&C 64. The real world's definition of "forgiveness" is, more or less, pardon or excuse and offense, which means you do not get punished for what you did.

There is a slight difference between the real definition and the Mormon definition.

The real definition::: You are pardoned or excused so you are not punished.

The Mormon definition::: You are pardoned or excused so you are not blamed.



They also say that Forgiveness is a DIVINE attribute.


So a God who cannot look upon sin with any allowance also doesn't blame anyone for anything.

I don't blame you for doing that, but I do not allow what you did. ???

Yes ---- that does seem to point to a world where you are never to blame, but you are always punished for who knows what.


I just don't understand.

The Mormon doctrine still seems heavily unreasonable.

It's saying that you can never hold anyone accountable for their actions (despite being accountable at the age of 8) so if you get punished for something, it's not your fault but you still have to suffer for whatever it was that happened ---- which is still just plain wrong anyway.


NOTE:::::

Upon further thinking about the new Mormon definition of Forgiveness ----

I am realizing that this is quite a "sensible" way for Mormons to define their word.

It doesn't fully make sense, because though you are accountable at the age of 8 --- you are never actually accountable for anything you do with this new definition,

but it's the best they could do with the scriptures they have, I guess.

It may be completely debatable how good or useful this definition may ever be combined with any doctrines any church may ever have (especially the LDS church doctrine).

Yes ---- though it may make sense to just not blame a person for anything they ever do of their own free will --------


WHY tell an 8-year-old he's accountable if he's never to blame for anything he does?


It still doesn't make sense.


The worst sin you can now commit in Mormonism is to blame someone for their own actions.

Typically, in the real world --- you would blame someone for something that person did. They did it, they get the blame. More or less.


But now it's wrong to find a reason for anything happening, there are no reasons, nobody is accountable for anything they do.


But yeah, I just wonder how you can tell an 8 year old he's accountable for his own actions when in fact he is never to blame by God's divine decree for anything he does.


It still doesn't really make sense.

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